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poplar
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In Introduction to Dialectical Materialism, there is a quotation from Hegel: It is not so much from slavery as through slavery that man becomes free. (Hegel and Marx, Para.17) I really got some difficulty in understanding this. Would any of you please do some explanation? |
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Class society creates material basis for future classless communist society...thus man becomes free through slavery...not?
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That's a good theory, turnoviseous, but what I thought that could mean was that slavery exists in many forms, open and hidden, and that to recognize your slavery and break free of it is the way to become truly free. We often get the image of a slave as one who toils in the sun working his/her back off for the master and the way they become free is through escaping i.e. running away. However, there are many slaves in our society, they are ones who look at the world and don't like it and want to change it, but don't do a damn thing about it, they are slaves, as well.
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richard
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Hi
By the way, what Turnoviseous is trying to explain, was expressed by Marx and Engels:
"It is very easy to inveigh against slavery and similar things in general terms, and to give vent to high moral indignation at such infamies. Unfortunately all that this conveys is only what everyone knows, namely, that these institutions of antiquity are no longer in accord with our present conditions and our sentiments, which these conditions determine. But it does not tell us one word as to how these institutions arose, why they existed, and what role they played in history. And when we examine these questions, we are compelled to say—however contradictory and heretical it may sound—that the introduction of slavery under the conditions prevailing at that time was a great step forward. "
Anti-Duhring, Book II, Chapter IV.
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richard
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"...we do not support one form of capitalism over another and we oppose groups that want to 'fight fascism'. We are also opposed to democratic reform movements as these are simply pro-capitalist organisations that serve to deviate us from the task of acheiving Socialism...we are observing that the difference between the ideology of the left and of the fascists is negligible and that there is no reason to support the capitalist left over the fascists as their policies are fundamentally identical as they represent the interests of the ruling class or an aspiring ruling class - their interests are diametrically opposed to the interests of the working class. All parties are the expression of class interests and as the interests of the working class are diametrically opposed to the interests of all sections of the master class the party seeking working class emancipation must be hostile to every other party". R. Cumming The Theory of Social-Fascism September 2002 REVOLUTION NOT REFORM! ABOLITION OF THE WAGES SYSTEM! POWER TO THE WORKERS! JOIN THE REVOLUTIONARY COMMUNIST SPGB! SOCIALIST PARTY OF GREAT BRITAIN www.spgb.org.uk |
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poplar
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Thank you, my comrades. Well, do any of you happen to have a link to the text in which that sentence of Hegel included? I think maybe we can understand that sentence better in its context.
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