Abortion

[Nulono]

More thinking. Damn schools, nothing to do make me think, I still dont advocate, But i think its more trouble than is worth. With anti-abortionist well blow everything they can up and it will be up to us to hold the fort. gasint the induhviduals.

That is very rare and always immediately booed by every pro-life group.

[Universal]

Women should have the right to choose. After all, true equality means no distinction in society. By not letting women choose you create a class split.
This goes against all marxist, communist and socialist ideas in the entirety of its form. People should have the right to decide, not the church fanatics or the
state.

O, and UCC (United Church of Christ) does support abortion and gay rights, so dont try going religius on me.

[JJM 777]

As long as women are carrying the baby inside themselves and not men, their lives will be restricted to some extent during pregnancy. A pause in work or study, and (should be legally obligatory) pause in consumption of cigarettes, alcohol or drugs.

Not to say that cigarettes or drugs should be legal at all to any person. In my opinion they shouldn't.

[Christopher Hill]

Since when are women too stupid to make their own decisions? I must complain that since many people obviously claim women are stupid that all female's be put in padded rooms, Since they are obviously too stupid to be trusted on their own right?

[JJM 777]

Some things are legal in the world, and some other things are illegal. Not because people are stupid, but also because intelligent people can choose to do evil to others.

The main point in debate about "no abortion VS. first trimester abortion only VS. 2nd or 3rd trimester abortion VS. infanticide after birth" is the object of the action, the fetus or baby that is killed. What human rights should it have, since when, and why?

Simplifying it into a matter of gender roles or religion is not a fruitful way to handle the issue.

[Christopher Hill]

Some things are legal in the world, and some other things are illegal. Not because people are stupid, but also because intelligent people can choose to do evil to others.

The main point in debate about "no abortion VS. first trimester abortion only VS. 2nd or 3rd trimester abortion VS. infanticide after birth" is the object of the action, the fetus or baby that is killed. What human rights should it have, since when, and why?

Simplifying it into a matter of gender roles or religion is not a fruitful way to handle the issue.

It is obvious that women are not stupid, Yet this seems to be the only logical reasoning behind the pro-life camp.. While I myself would not say I am Pro-Abortion I am Pro-Choice... While I find it sad that a person would have an abortion I do see it as their right.

[JJM 777]

Where do you draw the line then, at which point of pregnancy should abortion be legal / illegal:
- in 1st trimester? (currently the most popular choice of legislators around the world)
- in 2nd trimester (illegal in most countries?)
- in 3rd trimester? (illegal in nearly all countries, I think)
- directly during or after birth?

The answer to this question is not obvious. Most people would answer "1st trimester", because it is the current political trend to answer so to this question. Will the political trend be the same after 50 years from now, nobody knows.

[Christopher Hill]

Where do you draw the line then, at which point of pregnancy should abortion be legal / illegal:
- in 1st trimester? (currently the most popular choice of legislators around the world)
- in 2nd trimester (illegal in most countries?)
- in 3rd trimester? (illegal in nearly all countries, I think)
- directly during or after birth?

The answer to this question is not obvious. Most people would answer "1st trimester", because it is the current political trend to answer so to this question. Will the political trend be the same after 50 years from now, nobody knows.

From a moral standpoint I would say the 1st trimester, but I honestly don't know.

[jhon]

exactly.
whenever i think of this topic i strongly get upset from those who get this procedure done.
if anyone out here is interested in having an abortion please check this link.
http://www.google.co.in/images?hl=&q=abortion+pictures&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGLL_enIN384IN384&ie=UTF-8&biw=1360&bih=529
please dont visit this link if you are a kid or heart patient.

[Paula Marx]

I'm against abortion if woman is not raped of if one parents isn't chronically ill. In that cases parents should have the right to choose.

[DanielW]

Hi,
I appreciate all of your attitudes but what is we talk about rape vicitim? What if there is a minor person pregnant? What if pregnancy if life threaten and abortion is question of life? Yes generally, abortion is evil, but there are some cases which needs reconsideration. And, what about woman right to choose? Very difficult and complicated topic.

[SmartPerson]

You're all fairly retarded. No offense. I'm sure your mental deficiencies are the result of a failed termination on your mother's part, and I'm sorry for that.
Now, if you seriously don't realise that babies - unborn included - are human, feel pain, recognise their mothers voices in the womb, and are just as much part of our society as you idiots, then you need to be checked for brain damage.
I can understand where you come from: You all believe in evolution right? Because I assume none of you are Christians, considering you're all on this evil website. I myself am only on this forum for research. Kind of like studying baboons at a zoo.
Now, it's just a small jump from evolution to eugenics. I'll assume you all know what that means for the purpose of speaking to you as adults. Eugenics, Socialism, Marxism and Darwiniam all go hand in hand, and you've all been brainwashed since early development (probably your hippy/liberal parents playing Mozart and audio clips of the Weather Underground and Black Panthers leaders to you while in the womb) so none of you actually see anything wrong in the way you are thinking. But you are wrong. A baby is not the property of its mother in the sense that she can decide to kill it on whim. Imagine a society in which that is true. What kind of relationship can a child have with a mother that has had a previous abortion. "I know you love me mommy, but why didn't you love my brother?" "He wasn't human, sweetie, also I was feeling bloated that day."
I could go on, but I can't imagine most of you getting past the first sentence, so I'll end it here with this: All humans are equal. If you say that a fetus is not equal to human, then where's the difference in stating that certain races aren't as equal as others?
I am disheartened by the idea that this website will not be shut down. A generation ago, this kind of thinking would get someone arrested. I hope you all think of that before attending your next Future Socialists meeting, or whatever you call it among your circle of lonely, strange friends.

[jcarter125]

with all due respect, regardless of the reason of pregnancy it is a mortal sin to abort a child. i'm a devoted Catholic with strong Christian beliefs. i hope unwanted pregnancy will not happen to my daughter. i will be devastated then, and it might shaken my faith.