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« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2003, 10:35:39 PM »

Elijah, I am still waiting on your reply on idea of "premature" revolution...
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« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2003, 10:36:46 PM »

I'd like to see this occur, my friend.

I'm sure gun in the face beats your shovel any day.
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« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2003, 10:38:37 PM »

Yeah, a water pistol :D
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« Reply #33 on: October 18, 2003, 10:38:54 PM »

Turne, I posted a long quote from Engels.
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« Reply #34 on: October 18, 2003, 10:53:29 PM »

And I said:

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Ok, so you propose that proletariat should stay back and not make a revolution, because it would be "premature" and it has to come from the developed west first? Thats what mensheviks stood for. Also, wasn´t China´s revolution then also "premature"?


You haven´t answered me on this. Also, there doesn´ t seem anything wrong with Engels´s views.
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« Reply #35 on: October 18, 2003, 10:59:15 PM »

I am not opposed to premature revolution.  I'm not sure what you want from me past that.

What are your views on this?  I thought you were against "premature" revolution?
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« Reply #36 on: October 18, 2003, 11:07:20 PM »

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I am not opposed to premature revolution.  I'm not sure what you want from me past that.

What are your views on this?  I thought you were against "premature" revolution?


My views are that of Trotsky´s theory of Permanent revolution. Which was well explained on YOUR forum. But you "haven´t had time" to read it, I guess.

You can start the revolution in a single undeveloped country under imperialist control, but the revolution must spread, this is also the view of Engels in your quote!
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« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2003, 11:09:47 PM »

It is my view as well.

Stalin's as well.

Though it is not called permanent revolution.
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« Reply #38 on: October 19, 2003, 06:23:57 AM »

That is not your view though! You have just done a complete u-turn!! :rolleyes:
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