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Dirty Commie
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« on: August 28, 2003, 09:08:10 PM » |
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If we are going to show the manifesto, why not Capital?
Or other revolutionary writings, Berkman, Guevara, etc.
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2003, 05:07:35 PM » |
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Guevera is not very popular no this site.
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2003, 02:12:44 PM » |
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Why isn't he?
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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2003, 03:56:36 PM » |
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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2003, 12:29:47 PM » |
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What's Das Capital about anyways? ive seen it at book stores every now and then but the books size just scares the hell out of me and i leave it alone.
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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2003, 12:37:04 PM » |
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Das Kapital was a complete explination of how capitalism operates and its many faults and contradictions. I don't think many Marxists will ever read all 3 volumes, you don't really need to anymore, you can find all the main points explained simply in study guides like this one on Marxist economics |
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2003, 01:09:19 PM » |
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Originally posted by AnarchoSkeez
What's Das Capital about anyways? ive seen it at book stores every now and then but the books size just scares the hell out of me and i leave it alone. What is it about? Ok. Well Marx analyses capitalist mode of production in detail there and the main contradictions. A very good book if you have time to read it. |
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« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2003, 04:56:17 PM » |
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I tried reading it once. But, I hate reading books over the internet (particularly this book because it's so full of information) so I'm going to have to go to the library. I hope it's available now!
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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2003, 01:06:14 PM » |
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i dont think youll find it in the library. the manifesto is considered a banned book and well ya i wouldnt expect to find much communist or anarchist literture in a library.
Did Marx finish all 3 volumes? i though he finished the first one and tthen kicked the bucket or did Engles help finish it?
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2003, 05:19:27 PM » |
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dont think youll find it in the library. the manifesto is considered a banned book and well ya i wouldnt expect to find much communist or anarchist literture in a library. Well I think that's mostly in the USA. In my liberary I have found lots of communist litterature, including Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, John Reed etc, and if they don't have it on display you can order it. But i know it's more hard to find it in "the land of the free". Comradely |
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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2003, 05:33:59 PM » |
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good point about my libraries...i forgot most people here arent americans. man...i really hate america sometimes
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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2003, 05:38:15 PM » |
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tka denmark
your crazy about punk rock right? is funeral dress from denmark? i know there from somewhere in that region of europe. be a comrade and give me some names of punk bands from up there i would be able to get off the internet.
i also saw the exploited..discharge..the adicts.. in one show last weekend. they fucking tore up the stage. all 3 were fucking amazing especially the adicts. god damn, they are amazing!
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2003, 04:44:51 PM » |
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Hello A.Skeez, perhaps a suggestion before you try to tackle Capital: try reading Engels' "Wage Labour and Capital", see http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/wage-labour/ This is a very good overview of what capitalism is all about. Table of Contents: ----------------- Introduction Preliminary What are wages? By what is the price of a commodity determined? By what are wages determined? The nature and growth of capital Relation of wage-labor to capital The general law that determines the rise and fall of wages and profit The interests of capital and wage-labor are diametrically opposed Effect of capitalist competition on the capitalist class, middle class and working class ___________________ At the Marxists Internet Archive there's also a study guide . Hope this helps Cheers |
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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2003, 04:57:21 AM » |
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I have read most of Vol1 of Capital, and its a book that needs perseverence over the first few hundred pages or so.It is a scientific study and not just an expose of capitalism and Im gonna wish I hadnt said this , should be read in conjunction with his smaller works, but equally important, Wage Labour and Capital, Wages ,Price and Profit etc,etc. Lenin and Trotsky have both written substantial essays on economics using Capital as a reference and can be used as a guide, because they tend to summarise alot of what Marx said.
I must be perfectly honest with the comrades, economics is not my strong point so my journeys into Capital have been slow and patient.
BTW way ,I havent got vol 3!!!! But I do have "Grundrisse".
Ian
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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2003, 08:38:46 PM » |
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The manifesto is banned? How come it hasn't been taken to the Supreme Court?
As for Das Kapital, I find that reading a few of the abridged versions (around 300-400 pages average) help, becuase the editors edit out the outdated or repetitive stuff.
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We Socialists won the battle when our ancestors crawled on their hands, for Socialism is as rooted in our instinct as the thirst for water, for Socialism is a different type of thirst, a thirst for the pack, a thirst for belonging, a thirst for revolution, a thirst for EQUALITY! -- Myself
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