I've come to educate you so you can see the glory of liberty

[Patriotic American]

Hello, I’m a patriotic American, and I’m here because you need my help.

As everyone should be, I’m an American conservative. Despite what you may think, the United States of America is the best thing that has happened to this world ever since it was first created 6,000 years ago by the Lord our God. Other great things to have happened since then include Ronald Reagan, off of whom I try to model my political and personal life.

Freedom and liberty are the solutions to the human condition and all of the problems we face. America is a shining beacon on a hill, and the world would be far better off if they engaged in capitalist economies and in democracies like ours. They need to fully recognize the rights and personal freedoms of all people as God intends them to do. Because of that, I will never falter in my support of George W. Bush’s invasion of Iraq. For far too long, those poor helpless people suffered under the brutal regime of Saddam Hussein, and now they can run free throughout the sweet gardens of freedom.

Now, this is where I need to educate you. The only way that our freedom can be secured in this world is for the United States to have influence over all of it, and therefore for the United States to be run by the Republican Party. The Democrats are full of socialists, especially Barack HUSSEIN Obama. It needs to top immediately.

[Jimi4444]

Hello, I’m a patriotic American, and I’m here because you need my help.

As everyone should be, I’m an American conservative. Despite what you may think, the United States of America is the best thing that has happened to this world ever since it was first created 6,000 years ago by the Lord our God. Other great things to have happened since then include Ronald Reagan, off of whom I try to model my political and personal life.

Freedom and liberty are the solutions to the human condition and all of the problems we face. America is a shining beacon on a hill, and the world would be far better off if they engaged in capitalist economies and in democracies like ours. They need to fully recognize the rights and personal freedoms of all people as God intends them to do. Because of that, I will never falter in my support of George W. Bush’s invasion of Iraq. For far too long, those poor helpless people suffered under the brutal regime of Saddam Hussein, and now they can run free throughout the sweet gardens of freedom.

Now, this is where I need to educate you. The only way that our freedom can be secured in this world is for the United States to have influence over all of it, and therefore for the United States to be run by the Republican Party. The Democrats are full of socialists, especially Barack HUSSEIN Obama. It needs to top immediately.

Though I'm sure you're a troll, I'll try and reason with you nonetheless. For one the earth was NOT created 6,000 years ago (I thought the Christians say 4,000). I'm curious to see what you admire in Ronald Reagan, was it in his help of overthrowing the DEMOCRATIC government in Nicaragua? Maybe it's his right wing economic policies which filled the pockets of the rich and threw people on the street.
"America is a shining beacon on a hill, and the world would be far better off if they engaged in capitalist economies and in democracies like ours."
What country with the exception of Cuba is not a capitalist economy? How come whenever these countries put presidents up that go against our economic interests we overthrow them? Is that what you call "democracy"? Reality is the world is not benefiting from Free Market economies, that is why in the past 15 years the support of it has dropped significantly. Capitalism means a life of hell for billions of people, over 15,000 people will die today just from lack of food and water. Is that really what you support?

"Freedom and liberty are the solutions to the human condition and all of the problems we face."
Freedom for who is the correct question to ask. Freedom to get exploited at work, freedom to elect people who don't represent you, freedom to die for economic interest. What wonderful freedoms we do have!

 "I will never falter in my support of George W. Bush’s invasion of Iraq. For far too long, those poor helpless people suffered under the brutal regime of Saddam Hussein, and now they can run free throughout the sweet gardens of freedom."

Conservatives never cease to amaze me. If you honestly that the people are better off now than before we invaded Iraq, you have no concept of reality. Hundreds of thousands killed, people forced to move and living inside a constant war. You would consider that freedom? Bush invade the country for hegemony over the region and for economic interrests. The USA is the biggest Imperialist power in the history of mankind, and since when has Imperialism been about helping people?

"Now, this is where I need to educate you. The only way that our freedom can be secured in this world is for the United States to have influence over all of it, and therefore for the United States to be run by the Republican Party. The Democrats are full of socialists, especially Barack HUSSEIN Obama. It needs to top immediately."

I never supported Barrack Obama, knowing that he was just a tool of the ruling class here in the USA. The Republicans have been using this out of pure desperation, and it just shows how pathetic they really are. If you knew ANYTHING about socialism, you'd know that the democrats/Obama are not socialists. I mean honestly what has he done that is so different from Bush? He has expanded on the Imperialist wars in the Middle East, and has done virtually nothing he promised. He even gave Wall Street billions of dollars when he was elected.

Clearly you don't have much of a political education. I'd suggest reading some of the basics of Marxism, try the "State and Revolution" by Lenin. Also the "Communist Manifesto" is another good read.
www.wellredusa.com just published our second edition of "Marxism and the USA" which I would suggest to you, showing the true revolutionary side of American politics.

[Friedman]

Iraq is far better off without Saddam.

I really don't understand how socialists can oppose the liberation of Iraq.

The biggest supporter of American forces in the country have been Marxists and socialists who used to be hunted down by Baathists. Do you honestly believe that President Talabani is occupying his own country? Or that Prime Minister Maliki is a dictator? It is so easy to dismiss the whole thing as "imperialism", but when you began to analyze it, you cannot ignore the benefits associated with it. It is true that the United States was motivated by its own interests when it invaded the country, but the interests of the United States and those of the Iraqi people were clearly aligned. The Iraqi People have the right to hold free and fair elections, the right to reap the benefits of their oil reserve, to practice their own religion etc.

Sure, thousands were killed during the invasion, but most of these casualties were inflicted by insurgents on fellow muslims, not by American forces. Al-Qaeda in Mesopotamia and its allies are not rebels or dissidents. They are war criminals and they are the ones responsible for the horrific violence in Baghdad and elsewhere. There is only one People's Militia in the whole country of Iraq, and it is called the KURDISH PESHMARGA, and I am proud to say that it is fighting ON OUR SIDE, the side of NATO and the democratic and free countries of the West. The same is true in Afghanistan.

Go to Kurdistan Iraq, and you will find that the vast majority of the population there supports the American liberation of Iraq, and even in Baghdad more and more people are starting to see the benefits of it, even Sunnis.

As for Capitalism;

I believe that Capitalism is a far more revolutionary system than socialism could ever hope to be. The inequalities that you speak of are not caused by capitalism, but the lack of capitalism in these countries. You cannot seriously believe that African countries are the epitome of capitalism and that their failure is due to a flaw within the ideology itself. If you can dismiss Cuba and the ex-Soviet Union as failed worker's states, then I'll dismiss those as failed capitalist states. Capitalism is first and foremost about competition and equal opportunity. None of the countries you're thinking of represents this. WALL-STREET is not Capitalism either. I strongly suggest you read Adam Smith's wealth of Nation.

By the way, the most successful african countries, all have free market systems; Botswana, South Africa, Cape Verde etc.

[Volkov]

Now, this is where I need to educate you. The only way that our freedom can be secured in this world is for the United States to have influence over all of it, and therefore for the United States to be run by the Republican Party. The Democrats are full of socialists, especially Barack HUSSEIN Obama. It needs to top immediately.

First of all, none of us actually support Obama.  In fact, the editorial of Socialist Appeal #43 makes that pretty clear (this was written shortly after he was elected).

I have also highlighted a part of your previous quote.  While we don't support Obama and saying his full name in itself is not problematic, the way you have chosen to emphasize "Hussein" smacks of an attempt at race baiting (right-wing racists are very fond of such emphasis).  Such behavior is not something we support.  Consider yourself warned.

[Christopher Hill]

Though I'm sure you're a troll, I'll try and reason with you nonetheless. For one the earth was NOT created 6,000 years ago (I thought the Christians say 4,000).

(Christians believe the Earth was created between 5,700 and 10,000 years ago)
 

I'm curious to see what you admire in Ronald Reagan, was it in his help of overthrowing the DEMOCRATIC government in Nicaragua? Maybe it's his right wing economic policies which filled the pockets of the rich and threw people on the street.

What you must remember is that in American media Democracy is a synonym for whatever fits ruling class interests, many conservatives still praise Augusto Pinochet for his "Democracy" 

"America is a shining beacon on a hill, and the world would be far better off if they engaged in capitalist economies and in democracies like ours."
What country with the exception of Cuba is not a capitalist economy? How come whenever these countries put presidents up that go against our economic interests we overthrow them? Is that what you call "democracy"? Reality is the world is not benefiting from Free Market economies, that is why in the past 15 years the support of it has dropped significantly. Capitalism means a life of hell for billions of people, over 15,000 people will die today just from lack of food and water. Is that really what you support?

And when a leader they love commits war crimes they downplay the casualties, when a "Hostile" leader does the same, the exaggerate it, compare and contrast Fidel Castro/Che Guevara and Augusto Pinochet.

Freedom for who is the correct question to ask. Freedom to get exploited at work, freedom to elect people who don't represent you, freedom to die for economic interest. What wonderful freedoms we do have!

Exactly, freedom from the few is no freedom at all, and to confuse privilege with freedom is a huge mistake.

[Paula Marx]

Don't you hate those people who join only to write idiotic stuff?
They are not worth our attention.

[Friedman]

Don't you hate those people who join only to write idiotic stuff?
They are not worth our attention.

Translation:

I can't debate properly.

[Conservitave4]

Thankyou for this!! I agree 100% i

[Paula Marx]

Don't you hate those people who join only to write idiotic stuff?
They are not worth our attention.

Translation:

I can't debate properly.

Translation? I meant I said it on English...

[Lenin77]

to Patriotic American -
The American capitalists have taken the place of King George. The two political parties are two sides of the same coin, be it the Democratic party or the Republican party in charge, both are in favor of capitalism. Oh, I'm sorry, both are in favor of the "free" market economy. Obama is not a socialist, he is continuing many of the policies of Governor Bush(I call him governor Bush because I believe it is the only office he has held legally in America). Other capitalist counties have free healh care, it doesn't mean they are socialist. Please take the time to learn about socialism for yourself instead of taking someone's word for it before you go attacking it. I suggest reading the Communist Manifesto by Marx and Engels, it is very short and very easy to read, and if you come away still hating socialism, then that is your opinion.
"Any literate person can convince him/herself of our contention, if he/she takes the time to make a complete list of annexations." - V. I. Lenin