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Re: true meaning of marxism?
« Reply #45 on: February 08, 2010, 10:34:46 AM »

Isn't Utopianism nicer than Marxism? We shoudn't be as our worst enemies. Real communism is not possible to practice, but it's really beautiful to believe in it. I don't want to get off the right way and become a Bolshevik. I don't believe in unity of Mensheviks and Bolsheviks, but at least we should seek peace. I just don't want to fight with other communists. We are not supposed to be apart, are we? Our aim is peace and liberty - some of us believe in communism as politics and some of us believe in the ideology. That's the main difference.
You can say you succeeded, but on what? Only on being brutal? Or something more? You can't say the USSR was a real socialistic state - Marx himself said communism has two stages - dictatorship of proletariat and state of no authority and no classes. Bolsheviks never reached that 2nd level.

And thank you for asking, but I know what am I talking about -.-
Paula reflects something that is both good and bad about the the leftist movement in general... good in that it is a truly unique approach to leftist ideology that has been formed and expressed out in the open for everyone to see and debate. Bad, in that it is such an absolutely absurd idea to think that it could ever be used as any basis for political (or real) change, and in the process of this it tends to undermine the concept of communism/socialism/Marxism for those who don't feel the need (or desire) to do anything but take her word for it.
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Re: true meaning of marxism?
« Reply #46 on: February 09, 2010, 02:25:07 AM »

Isn't Utopianism nicer than Marxism? We shoudn't be as our worst enemies. Real communism is not possible to practice, but it's really beautiful to believe in it. I don't want to get off the right way and become a Bolshevik. I don't believe in unity of Mensheviks and Bolsheviks, but at least we should seek peace. I just don't want to fight with other communists. We are not supposed to be apart, are we? Our aim is peace and liberty - some of us believe in communism as politics and some of us believe in the ideology. That's the main difference.
You can say you succeeded, but on what? Only on being brutal? Or something more? You can't say the USSR was a real socialistic state - Marx himself said communism has two stages - dictatorship of proletariat and state of no authority and no classes. Bolsheviks never reached that 2nd level.

And thank you for asking, but I know what am I talking about -.-
Paula reflects something that is both good and bad about the the leftist movement in general... good in that it is a truly unique approach to leftist ideology that has been formed and expressed out in the open for everyone to see and debate. Bad, in that it is such an absolutely absurd idea to think that it could ever be used as any basis for political (or real) change, and in the process of this it tends to undermine the concept of communism/socialism/Marxism for those who don't feel the need (or desire) to do anything but take her word for it.

Thank you, comrade.
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