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(gravity is still an outstanding mystery)
« on: February 23, 2008, 06:55:01 AM »

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None of the relativists have understood this, including Einstein himself. Consequently, the relativists have never solved the problem of the gravitational field. It is amazing that such a simple error could produce such a gigantic mistake in its wake, but that is precisely what the black hole is — a mistake for enormous proportions.





A Brief History of Black Holes

Stephen J. Crothers
Sydney, Australia
E-mail: thenarmis@yahoo.com

Neither the layman nor the specialist, in general, have any knowledge of the historical circumstances underlying the genesis of the idea of the Black Hole. Essentially, almost all and sundry simply take for granted the unsubstantiated allegations of some ostentatious minority of the relativists. Unfortunately, that minority has been rather careless with the truth and is quite averse to having its claims corrected, notwithstanding the documentary evidence on the historical record. Furthermore, not a few of that vainglorious and disingenuous coterie, particularly amongst those of some notoriety, attempt to dismiss the testimony of the literature with contempt, and even deliberate falsehoods, claiming that history is of no importance. The historical record clearly demonstrates that the Black Hole has been conjured up by combination of confusion, superstition and ineptitude, and is sustained by widespread suppression of facts, both physical and theoretical. The following essay provides a brief but accurate account of events, verifiable by reference to the original papers, by which the scandalous manipulation of both scientific and public opinion is revealed.

http://www.thunderbolts.info/thunderblogs/archives/guests08/022108_guest_sjcrothers.htm
http://whatreallyhappened.com/
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Re: (gravity is still an outstanding mystery)
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2008, 08:27:48 PM »

Thanks for that.

Unfortunately, science is full of stories like this, which is, of course, partly why practically every theory ever invented has proven to be wrong.

And if the past is anything to go by, this will continue for some time.
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2008, 10:32:13 PM »

Well, the disclaimer to that is that I'm not trained in that field -- I'm just passing along information that purports to a controversy around that topic. I have no arguments of my own to back up the claim to controversy.

I don't agree that "practically every theory ever invented has proven to be wrong." That's a gross overgeneralization which is so vague as be wrong and almost meaningless. There's plenty of science that we rely on for every moment of our existence.... Of course the good thing about science is that it can be revised as our information and knowledge improves.


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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2008, 10:42:09 PM »

Btw, I'm becoming more active over at RevLeft.com -- I'll still check the board here, but not on a regular basis....


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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2008, 10:22:56 AM »

What's your name at revLeft?

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I don't agree that "practically every theory ever invented has proven to be wrong." That's a gross overgeneralization which is so vague as be wrong and almost meaningless. There's plenty of science that we rely on for every moment of our existence.... Of course the good thing about science is that it can be revised as our information and knowledge improves

Well, unforunately, the facts of history are against you -- the vast majority of scientific theories are now in the trash can.

So, the evidence we have suggests the same will happen to today's theories, and those in the future.

And, sure, science has helped us control the world to our benefit, but it is no more 'close to the truth' than cats are close to the true form of a cat, even though both develop over time.
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2008, 04:49:58 PM »

Oh, so you're talking about the general and the particular here -- many things can be true, and, then, as a pattern over time, they can be generalized into 'science' or 'cats' as a category....

See my link below -- I have the same name over there -- take care, later...!


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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2008, 08:25:51 PM »

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Oh, so you're talking about the general and the particular here -- many things can be true, and, then, as a pattern over time, they can be generalized into 'science' or 'cats' as a category....

Er, I don't think I am.
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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2008, 03:25:55 AM »

Black holes do not exist? Interesting. I wish I could read through the link you provided but its all calculations that go way beyond anything I can comprehend.

 My curiosity has been peaked with the LCH coming online.
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really good posts

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