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world_ssr
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For months now, I've been hearing about these "Tea Party" protests. The protestors say that their quarrel with Obama is about his spending and taxing policies, and they seem to be trying to invoke the spirit of the American Revolution, what with the name and dressing up like colonists. But to me, they're just a bunch of sheep who are ticked off about having to shell out extra money for cigarettes and beer. What does everyone else think of them? Please reply with your opinions.
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Nulono
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I'm fine with them. However, they should be, by law, denied all public services.
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No fire service. No police service. No FDA. No using public roads. No public schools. No medicare. No $10000 financial security net. No free 911 (unneeded anyways as the services would be denied.) No foodstamps. No public ambulance. No FBI. No military. No public TV. No social security. No public water system. No public water treatment. No speedy and public trial. No jury of their peers. No seventh amendment. ad infinitum
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Lech
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Oddly enough, they didn't seem to have a problem with Bush's war spending. They are walking contradictions, they want their "freedom" but they don't want to pay taxes for public works. They also seemed to miss the point of the American Revolution. The cry was "No taxation without representation" not "No Taxation period". The thing is, this is political. They don't care about "freedom". Their just a bunch of stuck up conservatives who don't like Obama.
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A means can be justified only by its end. But the end in its turn needs to be justified.
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Oddly enough, they didn't seem to have a problem with Bush's war spending. They are walking contradictions, they want their "freedom" but they don't want to pay taxes for public works. They also seemed to miss the point of the American Revolution. The cry was "No taxation without representation" not "No Taxation period". The thing is, this is political. They don't care about "freedom". Their just a bunch of stuck up conservatives who don't like Obama.
Well Conservatives don't care of a big police force ,big army and lots and lots of money to the police and army .They love tough laws and have no problem with prisons .They hate free stuff and hate social programs. When police do some thing wrong or abuse power the Conservatives make excuses or say he should got tazed.
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nationalism thinks proud loyalty and devotion to a nation but nationalize is better becuse the business is to state ownership for equity and fairness rather than market principles.
Well I hate the Britch imperial system has I hate apples
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Universal
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Oddly enough, they didn't seem to have a problem with Bush's war spending. They are walking contradictions, they want their "freedom" but they don't want to pay taxes for public works. They also seemed to miss the point of the American Revolution. The cry was "No taxation without representation" not "No Taxation period". The thing is, this is political. They don't care about "freedom". Their just a bunch of stuck up conservatives who don't like Obama We never had a problem with bushes war spending because our major economic buildings had been destroyed because of terrorism, the only other attack on American soil. There has been only one other! All over America, we were ready to go to war, you could not even buy an American flag in stores when the war began! Now we have a 98% win over the taliban and we are fully committed, and i have no problem, with wiping the taliban, extreme zealous group, off the face of this planet and i don't care what you say. I would rather live in a society that i can walk outside and go into high skyscrapers and not worry about when the next plane is going to hit me! I don't care what you post about this, and i don't care what you say about me, i just would rather stay in a secure society than a distrot society.
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Volkov
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Comrades, I would recommend reading the brief article at http://www.socialistappeal.org/content/view/739/73/ to get an idea of how these "Tea Parties" worked and who organized them. They are not the "grassroots" movement that so many right-wingers rant and rave about.
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“I believe the phrase of Karl Marx is more relevant today than ever before, so the question is: socialism or death, but death of the human race, the death of the planet, because capitalism has abandoned the planet, it is destroying the ecology of the planet..."
Hugo Chavez
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fire_mat99
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We never had a problem with bushes war spending because our major economic buildings had been destroyed because of terrorism, the only other attack on American soil. There has been only one other! All over America, we were ready to go to war, you could not even buy an American flag in stores when the war began! Now tell me in 30 years how many attack on American soil. Than tell me how many attack on Israel soil in a month than we can talk .Why take out a atheist dictator in Iraq ?
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nationalism thinks proud loyalty and devotion to a nation but nationalize is better becuse the business is to state ownership for equity and fairness rather than market principles.
Well I hate the Britch imperial system has I hate apples
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Lech
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We never had a problem with bushes war spending because our major economic buildings had been destroyed because of terrorism, the only other attack on American soil. There has been only one other! All over America, we were ready to go to war, you could not even buy an American flag in stores when the war began!
Now we have a 98% win over the taliban and we are fully committed, and i have no problem, with wiping the taliban, extreme zealous group, off the face of this planet and i don't care what you say. I would rather live in a society that i can walk outside and go into high skyscrapers and not worry about when the next plane is going to hit me!
I don't care what you post about this, and i don't care what you say about me, i just would rather stay in a secure society than a distrot society. Most of Bush's war spending had nothing to do with the war. Regardless of what you may have been told, Iraq most likely had nothing to do with the attacks on the World Trade Center. 9/11 is not a viable excuse. As for living in a secure society, Iraqis no longer have that luxury mostly because we've destroyed order there.
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I did not say that Iraq was the cause of the war, the Taliban were. Also, most of Bushes war spendings may not have been placed in the war, for that reason I would never know why (probably because of the next election, it would not be the first time that a political leader stoleconfident about going money from us) but I still disagree with you, i like to feel confident about going into an airport or a tall skyscraper and not worry about the next terrorist attack. Also, where did i mention the instability of iraq in my last rely directly?
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Lech
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You didn't. That was my point. You said: We never had a problem with bushes war spending because our major economic buildings had been destroyed because of terrorism, the only other attack on American soil. There has been only one other! All over America, we were ready to go to war, you could not even buy an American flag in stores when the war began!
Now we have a 98% win over the taliban and we are fully committed, and i have no problem, with wiping the taliban, extreme zealous group, off the face of this planet and i don't care what you say. I would rather live in a society that i can walk outside and go into high skyscrapers and not worry about when the next plane is going to hit me!
I don't care what you post about this, and i don't care what you say about me, i just would rather stay in a secure society than a distrot society. My point was that very little effort had actually gone into fighting the taliban. Most of our resources were being spent in Iraq which had nothing to do with the "war on terror". For all of that spending, we are no closer to ending terrorism and "skyscraper attacks" than where we started.
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Christopher Hill
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They are worthless breeding grounds for ignorance, it is ironic how this is when the things the conservatives support.. in the end.. leads to big government.
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I'm fine with them. However, they should be, by law, denied all public services.
That's right.
No fire service. No police service. No FDA. No using public roads. No public schools. No medicare. No $10000 financial security net. No free 911 (unneeded anyways as the services would be denied.) No foodstamps. No public ambulance. No FBI. No military. No public TV. No social security. No public water system. No public water treatment. No speedy and public trial. No jury of their peers. No seventh amendment. ad infinitum
We actually only want a smaller govt, not anarchy. We believe that there should be police and firefighters, we are willing to pay taxes for those. We also are willing to pay taxes for roads, waterworks, public lands, post office, military and a LITTLE bit of social secutiry. We do not want entitlements like welfare, health care, pet projects, and many other wasteful spending. You cannot spend your way to prosperity.
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