Fusion powered Communism

[ACE]

Let me explain the principles of Fusion both cold and How, as they will play a major role in the world of Democratic Communism. Infact they will end up being a Key Component in the Democratic Communist revolution to come. There are two forms of Fusion that have been discovered and and even in a limited states of development, much to the shagrin of Capitalist who much like a Ferry Boat company that seek to prevent the Construction of a Bridge are doing everything in their power to prevent their development, however their power in finite while ours is infinite. Fusion, first Hot fusion. In order to derive power from Fusion one starts with Sea water from which Deuterium Oxide can be extracted and one will also need Lithuim, from which one can extract Tritium another isotobe of Hydrogen. Fusion is the process by which the sun powers our solar systems from the high energy reaction of fusing Hydrogen to Helium. So to recreate this process on earth in Hot Fusion one needs only supper heat the D+T, (to be continued)

Now as I was saying, Deuterium and Tritium, these Isotobes of Hydrogen are quite common and can be found in the earth's crust aswell as in the ocean in abundance, great abundance infact. So once you've got the components for D+T reaction then you need to heat the hydrogen to temperatures at which it can fuse into hellium. The input energy is high however the output energy is even higher. The tricky part is how does one deal with super heated gasses like these? Well When you have something the heat of the core of the sun you need not ever tough it you contain it with the use of magnetic fields.

A Ring shaped magnetic field has to be produced to contain the huge amounts of heat given off by the fusion reaction. All this is quite difficult and technicle quite tricky, but that's not all bad as unlike fission reactors which constantly pose the risk of criticle meltdown and radio active contamination the Fusion reaction is so tricky to maintain the real key is keeping it going to the concern that it might run out of control as in a neuclear meltdown.

So after considering this you might say "but all this sounds extremly difficult and highly expensive to build and support". Well you are in luck as there is a cheaper yet nearly as revolutionary alternative to hot Fusion, it's Cold Fusion. I continue the explanation of it's workings in my following note.

Now we have Cold Fusion, The Capitalist have attempted to discredit this discover labeled it Junk science, dismissed Pons and Fleishman as fools ect ect, threated others with having their fundings and grants revoked or removed for persuit of their "Taboo topic." However the whipps of Capitalist oppression can NEVER defeat the strenth or power of the Idea. To their Credit bold and intrepid scientest at MIT built working portable cold Fusion Reactors and Demonstrated it in August of 2003. Infact the Working Cold Fusion reactor had an output energy of 200%.

Now for the link regarding the demonstration :http://world.std.com/~mica/jeticcf10demo.html

(to be Continued)

Here's an excert regarding cold fusion:

"What the cold fusion reactions appear to be are the generation of helium from heavy hydrogen loaded into palladium. This generates tiny microscopic amounts, incredibly small amounts, of helium, but because E = mc2 we get a lot of energy out. The amount of new energy is substantial, and is often on the order of the energy that we put in. As a result, what we see, and what can be measured, is not only the dissipated heat of what we put in but also the added energy from these additional nuclear reactions [that are totally safe because they do not generate either neutron or additional penetrating ionizing radiation]. And the sum of the two energies are such that we see a new energy which is greater than what we put in. And the difference is what we call 'excess energy'."


So you see this can be done and also generate Excess heat to convert to energy uses Palladium and heavy Hydrogen, Cheaper easier and simplie.

There are abundant methods for replacing the need for Oil to drive and power industry. Infact one could conceivable use this technology to allow every to be completely self sufficient as a Cold Fusion reactor is both small and portable. You could use it to power your home independent of a power station, along with Photo Voltaic cells the entire world surface could be opened up for development without having to build the required infristructure to support life in remote locations.

No roads would be required to truck in fossil fuels for conventional generators, you could literally live on a desert island alone in the pacific and make run your own desalinization for drinking water ect ect.

With Fusion too you could produce Hydrogen fuel through Electrolosis, from that point it's a simple matter to build vehicles that run on Hydrogen as in the case of cars the have already been built. Next you extend it to hydrogen power aircraft and there you have it energy independence.

Oh and did I mention that both Fusion and Hydrogen and nonpoluting. With the exception of Hot Fusion that is as it does produce mildly radio active byproducts. I say Mildly as they have half lives measured in the hundred's of years as apposed to the thousands of years of their Fission reaction counterparts.

[Dasher]

In the hands of the ruling-class and the Stalinists these systems will remain dangerous.  Under a democratic plan of production, organised under democrtic control and managed by the working-class, where safety and not profit is the aim, then our scientists can develop a safe fusion source.
But natural power can be utilised from wave and hydro-electric power to satisfy the world needs in any case.

[ACE]

Hydro-electic eh?  I wouldn't be so sure of that the world's energy need are quite substancial and I'd dare say without a suitable alternative like Fusion in place it would be a decent into caos and fratricidal barbarism once the coal and oil ran out.  But at any rate Free electric power would certainly be a blow to Capitalist in the short term, simply look at how much effort and oppression Capitalist nation exert on controling the world's oil supply and pipelines?  That power base would be lost were Communist to complete the development of Cold Fusion.  It's why we need this now, it should be a top priority.

[Dasher]

Its may be a top priority, but we need to build a new world in order to achieve it.

By the way, hydro-electric could be a godsend for many African countries, but who is going to develop this?  Many would see this as their top priority.

[ACE]

You also seem to keep getting it backwards, no you get the tools FIRST then you can take those tools to build the new world utopia.  We must have Fusion and other technologies perfected to ensure that capitalism is abbolished.   Same goes for the countries in Africa if they had the Hydro-electric power FIRST they'd have a much better chance at throwing off the capitalist oppresssion in their situations aswell.  The tools need to come FIRST then there can be built the vision.

[orwellcommie]

This topic is amazing, I never though Communist would be talking about cold fusion.  But I see the author of this forum was banned I had several questions  :(

[P.O.U.M]

Heh, ACE was banned?

Yeah he was alittle crazy... maybe more than "alittle." But whats the reason for the banning?

[ckaihatsu]

Hi, is anyone familiar with, or can anyone comment on anything found at the following website? It's very provocative (in the good sense of the word!)!


Thanks,

Chris



The Motionless Electromagnetic Generator (MEG)
http://www.cheniere.org/








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[Volkov]

Originally posted by P.O.U.M
Heh, ACE was banned?

Yeah he was alittle crazy... maybe more than "alittle." But whats the reason for the banning?

I don't know either, but he was advocating for us to use some type of Spetznaz to break Marxists out of prision and such (see his post in the URGENT: Comrade Arrested in Bolivia thread).

[marx_was_right]

I think he'd made some careless comments about bombs, or explosives or something.

[orwellcommie]

Oh bombs eh?  Well nobody wants that, it's a pitty tho from his message he sounds quite astute physics.  The link about Cold Fusion was astounding, I'm like, well I'll be Cold Fusion REALLY does work afterall.  I saw something on the link I liked let me post it here:

COLD FUSION TIMES
INFORMATION FOR SKEPTICS  

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     What is believed to be "common knowledge"
is NOT ALWAYS truly "correct" in the long run.  

   Consider the following  quotes denying the existence of, or impact of,  innovations and discoveries of their time.
 
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INNOVATION

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          "... after a few more flashes in the pan, we shall hear very little more of Edison or his electric lamp. Every claim he makes has been tested and proved impracticable."  
          [New York Times, January 16, 1880]  


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 AEROSPACE

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          "Professor Goddard ... does not know the relation of action to reaction ... he only seems to lack the knowledge ladled out daily in our high schools"  
          [New York Times, January 13, 1920]  

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          "Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible."
[Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895]  

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          "Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value."
[Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole Superieure de Guerre]  
 


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COMPUTATIONAL SYSTEMS

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          "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
[Thomas Watson, chairman IBM, 1943]  

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          "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home."  
[Ken Olson, Chairman and founder Digital Equipment Corp., 1977]  

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          "640K ought to be enough for anybody."  
[Bill Gates, 1981]  
 


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ENERGY

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   "Fooling around with alternating current is just a waste of time.  
Nobody will use it, ever."    [Thomas Edison, 1889]  



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          "There is not the slightest indication that nuclear energy will ever be obtainable.  It would mean that the atom would have to be shattered at will."  
[Albert Einstein, 1932]  

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          "The energy produced by the atom is a very poor kind of thing.  Anyone who expects a source of power from the transformation of these atoms is talking  
    moonshine"   [Ernst Rutherford, 1933]  


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MUSIC

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          "We don't like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out."  
[Decca Recording Co. turning down the Beatles, 1962]  


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   ASTRONOMY

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"I would sooner believe that two Yankee professors lied,  
than that stones fell from the sky"  
[Thomas Jefferson, on hearing the report of a meteorite fall]  


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MEDICINE

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          "Louis Pasteur's theory of germs is ridiculous fiction."
[Pierre Pachet, Professor of Physiology at Toulouse, 1872]  

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It's got to be the best "Up yours!" to the Cold Fusion sceptics I've ever read. :)

[ckaihatsu]

Citizens as consumers - Powerslaves
http://newswire.indymedia.org/en/newswire/2005/05/822328.shtml

[Stonewall]

Fusion is amazing! It’s the only source of energy that could supply unlimited quantities of electric at near zero cost.

[dominicanchavez]

Hey you all that's why i said capitalism-societies are bad and boring, cuz they kill the motivation for knowledge and science, they only give chance for science for few people: like NASA, SETI, etc. but the masses are like banned from learning any thing, well capitalist societies sell u books, but they won't let you apply the knowledge u learn in a book to reality.  I think Bob Avakian (the USA-Revolutionary Party President) said that right wingers neocons hate science

They let u ead marx, bakunin, and nietzsche but they won't permit you apply that knowledge hahaha,

dominicanchavez

[socialism]

We should, as a whole, be cautious with this technology, for one who thinks up the economic output, capitalists will seek to create a war output on the lower classes.