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growing move to fascism now
« on: December 07, 2007, 04:27:30 AM »

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Many diverse regimes have identified themselves as fascist, and many regimes have been labeled as fascist even though they did not self-identify as such. Historians, political scientists, and other scholars have engaged in long and furious debates concerning the exact nature of fascism and its core tenets. Since the 1990s, there has been a growing move toward some rough consensus reflected in the work of Stanley Payne, Roger Eatwell, Roger Griffin, and Robert O. Paxton.

Mussolini defined fascism as being a right-wing collectivistic ideology in opposition to socialism, liberalism, democracy and individualism. He wrote in The Political and Social Doctrine of Fascism:
Anti-individualistic, the fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only insofar as his interests coincide with those of the State, which stands for the conscience and the universal will of man as a historic entity....

 The fascist conception of the State is all-embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value.... Fascism is therefore opposed to that form of democracy which equates a nation to the majority, lowering it to the level of the largest number.... We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the 'right', a Fascist century. If the nineteenth century was the century of the individual (liberalism implies individualism) we are free to believe that this is the 'collective' century, and therefore the century of the State.

Since Mussolini, there have been many conflicting definitions of the term fascism. Former Columbia University Professor Robert O. Paxton has written that:

Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion."

Here is a post on a growing move to fascism but much of what he is saying I do not understand.Anyone know why there is this growing move to fascism and how you would stop it?

Could the US or UK go to fascism in the future ? Like does the US or UK have the potential ?

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nationalism thinks proud loyalty and devotion to a nation but nationalize is better becuse the business is to state ownership  for equity and fairness rather than market principles.

Well I hate the Britch imperial system  has I hate apples
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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2007, 04:33:13 AM »

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...a sense of overwhelming crisis beyond reach of traditional solutions; 2. belief one’s group is the victim, justifying any action without legal or moral limits; 3. need for authority by a natural leader above the law, relying on the superiority of his instincts; 4. right of the chosen people to dominate others without legal or moral restraint; 5. fear of foreign `contamination."

Stanley Payne's Fascism: Comparison and Definition (1980) uses a lengthy itemized list of characteristics to identify fascism, including the creation of an authoritarian state; a regulated, state-integrated economic sector; fascist symbolism; anti-liberalism; anti-communism; anti-conservatism.

 He argues that common aim of all fascist movements was elimination of the autonomy or, in same cases, the existence of large-scale capitalism.

Semiotician Umberto Eco attempts to identify the characteristics of proto-fascism as the cult of tradition, rejection of modernism, cult of action for action's sake, life is lived for struggle, fear of difference, rejection of disagreement, contempt for the weak, cult of masculinity and machismo, qualitative populism, appeal to a frustrated majority, obsession with a plot, illicitly wealthy enemies, education to become a hero, and speaking Newspeak, in his popular essay Eternal Fascism: Fourteen Ways of Looking at a Blackshirt.

More recently, an emphasis has been placed upon the aspect of populist fascist rhetoric that argues for a "re-birth" of a conflated nation and ethnic people.

Most scholars hold that fascism as a social movement employs elements from the political left, but many conclude that fascism eventually allies with the political right, especially after attaining state power. For example, Nazism began as a socio-political movement that promoted a radical form of National Socialism, but altered its character once Adolf Hitler was handed state power in Germany. Economists like Ludwig Von Mises argue that fascism is a form of socialist dictatorship similar to that of the Soviet Union.


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nationalism thinks proud loyalty and devotion to a nation but nationalize is better becuse the business is to state ownership  for equity and fairness rather than market principles.

Well I hate the Britch imperial system  has I hate apples
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Re: growing move to fascism now
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2009, 08:33:52 AM »

Fascism seems to be decreasing in other countries, as people subject it with Hitler and Mussolini. I believe that all other political parties other  than communism/socialism and capitalism will be left in the world. With the creation of these parties, there will be a stage set for world war three.
All we have to do is either gain a strong hold in countries, making them more socialistic and communistic, and swipe out the "democracy" that capitalism creates.

I believe if we can accomplish this, we will be able to unify the world into one nationality. Bent on  and communism. With a final classless society, no money system, and total distribution. Looking at it, we will have to create a vast system of interdependent areas that will create resources necessary for the world to use WITH the needed goods of the people.
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