The legal age of drinking

[WindhamsonlyRed]

Sorry Paul I thought you said that you drank to take your mind off of your knee.  I must have read the wrong name.
Sorry

[Comrade_Angus]

Craic? yeah, drinking is ok, if you can find the right pubs you can drink underage.

[TavareeshKamo]

im going skiing next week, guess what i'll be doing when im off the piste?
Getting absolutely smashed!
 i'll bring my liver back in a paper bag for you have a look at :)

Kids only drink coz they got nothin better to do.  What would persuade spotty kids off the streets drinking?

[Grave Disorder]

To be honest, legal ages for everything should be scrapped. I'm 17, I've been getting drunk regularly since I was 15 and while I didn't treat it responsibly (and still don't tbh) it wasn't stopped, so it may as well be legalised if only so I could go to my parents for help...
 However- and I mean this in all seriousness- without drugs and alcohol I would find very little point to life. So although it may not be a good thing, it isn't all bad either.

[redjordi]

Originally posted by Grave Disorder
However- and I mean this in all seriousness- without drugs and alcohol I would find very little point to life. So although it may not be a good thing, it isn't all bad either.

This is actually a bit sad, GD, if you dedicated your life to the struggle for socialism, you surely would see a point to it (and still have a couple of pints with friends for a bit of extra fun!)

[proletarianrevo]

quite interesting discussion.
I was wondering if the tendency ever did something on drug abuse, and marxist attitude.

anyway I think that the problem in Denmark amoung many youngters really shows how wrotten the capitalist society is!
the legal age for drinking age is 15, but many kids get wasted, many of them only 12-13 years old! Their childhood isent really finished!
This is totally mixed-up! In order to sell more products and earn more money, the big companies released some "soft" drinks, fore example, baccardi breezer, which really taste as soda!
The kids cannot feel what they drink, they really just get so wasted.
Capitalism is indeed anarchy and chaos - also socially.

- Andreas, Denmark

[Cutter]

I would like to dedicate myself to socialism, perhaps like redjordi...

But you see Im a loser, a freak and I hate myself so much.

Last night I drank so much gin that by 2 AM i had difficulty  breathing. But at least I couldn't feel anything, and everything was spinning, it was rather nice actually.

And I was still drunk when I got up at 11.

Believe it or not I dont have a hangover, which is indicative of tolerance to alcohol that has been brought about by regulary drinking myself stupid...

What has this got to do with legal drinking age?

Very little, anyone can get alcohol, whether its kids experimenting.  Or adults... Matters little.

I cut myself as well, perhaps I shall take some pictures and send them in.

Last night i did a nice big one on my chest that says "Help me"

[Paul Smith]

"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature; it is the heart in a heartless world. Religion is the opium of the people." [Karl Marx]

This was written at a time when religion was one of the dominant ways of dulling the mind of the masses, to escape from their lives.

At a time when opium was used by the ruling classes (far too expensive for the lowly workers).  Opium also dulls the mind.

So would it not be fair to say that opium and religion have a character in common, they both dull the mind.

Would it be fair to say that alcohol and opium have common aspects too, they both dull the mind.

I think we could sum this up as alcohol (and other drugs) performs one of the same roles as religion in today's society, sending the working masses into blind stupidity.

How is a class that is either completely nullified by religion or nullified by being in a permanent state of drunkenness supposed to take power?

Religion has now become somewhat alien to the masses today, (in Europe at least it's still rampant through the US), but there are other ways to dull the minds of the masses though.

[T.K.A.-Denmark]

First of all Cutter I have had a time figuring out if you are joking or if it is for real.
If it's for real you really have to quit since you are on the path to alcoholism.
I know this from personal experience with friends and myself.
In Denmark we call that kind of drinking you described "death drinking" and there's quite a lot of drinking in Denmark, we are one of the countries (if not the) in Europe were people drink the most.
Of course people will experiment and I think it i's quite healthy, but it can very easily result in abuse.
Two of my friends have to take pills now that will keep them from drinking because they never learned to control their drinking.
One of them is now 30 and he has never learned to drink proberly.
It's quite funny to go out drinking when you are young and in good shape.
But when you are 40 fat and worn out it's hard to see the fun in it any more.
(I know I sound very moralising, but why destroy ourself for no reason?)
Comradely

[des-esseintes]

Pop culture is the religion of today. This, like everything else is for economic reasons - because the traditional Christian ideals of piety are irreconcilable with consumer society. Fear of God is hard to combine with the hedonistic feasting on endless oceans of cosmetics, racks upon racks of designer clothes and the hailing of individualism as the supreme being. Those few Christians who are also good consumers typically wear their religion as another pair of sunglasses, another dungaree jacket; piety has never entered their mind