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much talk about Bush now days
« on: July 05, 2007, 04:32:58 AM »

There is much talk about Bush in the US , and well I don't look at the people in government much but there is much talk about Bush in the US.

1 If Bush is for the rich how so and why
2 If Bush is for oil how so and why
3 If Bush is for big businesses and big companies how so and why
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nationalism thinks proud loyalty and devotion to a nation but nationalize is better becuse the business is to state ownership  for equity and fairness rather than market principles.

Well I hate the Britch imperial system  has I hate apples
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2007, 04:19:54 PM »

All of those questions are actually one question. I will answer it thus:

 The presidential position in america holds so much power, that when it comes to elections, there is absolutely no say for the people (voting is useless) as all along the lines there are subtle pushes from "money". I.E. The heads of all the most successful businesses spend their money to keep someone in charge who suits their money-making schemes.
 The bush family is notorious for using big money to swat away other competitors for power.
 Why is bush for oil? That's why his family are multi-millionaires, and that's why him and his dad became president. Why does that make a difference for him becoming prez? Well, no one really knows except the companies that throw him millions of dollars for support. They must like something he's doing, and not politically, business wise.
He is for big business and big companies because that's what allows his family to never work a day in their entire life. And also what caused little george to not have to serve in the army, like clinton.

 Ugh but even thinking of all this makes me sick... don't even think of understanding us politics.
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2007, 05:29:11 AM »

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The presidential position in america holds so much power, that when it comes to elections, there is absolutely no say for the people (voting is useless) as all along the lines there are subtle pushes from "money". I.E. The heads of all the most successful businesses spend their money to keep someone in charge who suits their money-making schemes.


And legally you can pay someone like Bush in power to pass a law? So if you a big company or a rich guy you can pay so much money to someone like Bush or a Congress man to pass a law? 

Is that not bribery??

So you are saying big businesses and big companies or rich people control the Congress man or Bush by paying them money to pass laws to help the big businesses and big companies or rich people?

So only 10% of the people in the US that are capitalist control the US by saying to the Congress man or Bush do this and I will pay you xx money?





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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2007, 05:35:03 AM »

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The bush family is notorious for using big money to swat away other competitors for power.
So bush pays xx money to other lefty groups going for election to not run?


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Why is bush for oil? That's why his family are multi-millionaires, and that's why him and his dad became president. Why does that make a difference for him becoming prez? Well, no one really knows except the companies that throw him millions of dollars for support. They must like something he's doing, and not politically, business wise.


Can you elaborate here and why you have to be so rich to be the president of the US?





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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2008, 11:47:02 AM »

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So bush pays xx money to other lefty groups going for election to not run?

It is doubtful Bush pays money directly to left-wing groups to not run for an election. This would probably done, if done, by political friends and allies. Also, it is not hard to win for him anyways; the only other political party that can challenge him is the Democratic Party(which also has a difficult time trying to mobilise workers for its candidates) as political power in this country is very consolidated within the two major parties, a third party may occasionally win a candidate in a local election and that is about as far one can get. Also, the major parties may try to get others to run, as to "steal" votes but can't win. However,people from neither party are occasionally elected into the US congress, as are Bernie Sanders, a former Rep. now Senator from Vermont and calls himself a democratic-socialist, and Joseph Lieberman, a former Dem., Senator from Connecticut; both are independent. The only third party that was elected into the US Congress within the last 100 yrs. that I am aware of was in 1918(?), when a Socialist Party candidate was elected into the H. O. Representatives from Vermont, however the House refused to seat him. Eugene Debs also received a large amount of votes around that same time period while in prison.

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Can you elaborate here and why you have to be so rich to be the president of the US?

It is not necessary, many presidents came from poor families, though being wealthy helps a lot! The only prerequisite is to be a lapdog of capitalism.



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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2008, 01:30:29 PM »

Actually, the Vermont Senator, Bernie Sanders is a Democratic Socialist.
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2008, 06:07:10 AM »

Which I think I stated:
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as are Bernie Sanders, a former Rep. now Senator from Vermont and calls himself a democratic-socialist,

Sorry if you missed this little bit.
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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2008, 07:10:31 AM »

My mistake.
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2008, 03:04:19 PM »

What the other poster was saying here was voting is useless ,  because big businesses give money to the republican and Democratic on election day.If the political party running for election do what is in best interest of the working class , the big businesses will not give them money on election day.Now I don't know if they can give money to them after election day or not.Like every year give them money so they support big businesses .

And  big businesses pay left groups off.
 
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