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« on: November 10, 2006, 03:00:40 PM »

Berozgar Nojwan Tehreek BNT (Jobless youth Movement) a movement of unemploed youth in pakistan is holding a protest against unemployment and for the rights of unemployed on 26th november in front of Lahore press club, Lahore.

Everyone who is withus on this issue must join us on this important day.
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2008, 01:00:07 PM »

This is interesting.

You want to protest unemployment.

You can do so by getting a job to protest unemployment.

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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2008, 02:56:34 AM »

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You can do so by getting a job to protest unemployment.

How would this be a protest against unemployment?

Also, it is easier said than done to get a job, I have been trying to find one for the past few months.
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2008, 03:44:02 AM »

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This is interesting.

You want to protest unemployment.

You can do so by getting a job to protest unemployment.


Standard conservative argument there.

So if you are unemployed you are a lazy bastard. What if there are no jobs?
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2008, 08:31:32 PM »

if there are no jobs, create a business and employ people or move to a different location for a job
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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2008, 04:58:43 AM »

Just like I said and you have reconfirmed; you have standard Conservative view on employment.You are mistaken if you think unemployment is caused by 'lazy people'.

Things arent that simple for the unemployed. You seem to think they are all lazy and dont want to work. While that might be true in a tiny number of cases the vast majority of workers want to work. Compare that to the tiny group of parasitic capitalists who control society but do very little for their wealth?

If there are no jobs due to the cyclical economic recessions that happen even travelling the length and breadth of the country wont get you work until the economy picks up.By suggesting workers try to set up their own business is equally futile in an economic recession.

The unemployed are right to demonstrate. The bosses are quite happy to dump workers when times are tough while they still protect and benefit from their profits. They should be knocking their bosses doors down and demanding work.

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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2008, 03:54:12 PM »

I perfer to call myself "Communist Conservative"
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2008, 02:17:44 AM »

I see (???)
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2009, 07:15:20 AM »

Sorry, but in a standard western capitalism, there is a unemployment margin or breaking barrier of usually between 3-5%.

For those protesting unemployment, socialism is absolutely the only means for this. For those pushing the "Get a job, create a business" nonsense, I'd recommend you pick up a single economics paper before you call others lazy and weak.

Empiricist? As in every statement is meticulous and borne from experience. Is it your experience that a nations economy has no influence on ones ability to recieve the nessacary investment, business or essential means to build a business. Is it also your experience that in times of economic depression, when job cuts become common, when national industries are completely abandoned, when consumer confidence creates less profit margins to hire on employees or afford those that they've already, that getting a job is simply a matter of will?

I think before making such offensive and belittling statement, you should have a little more experience for your empirical mindset.
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« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2009, 08:12:36 PM »

Sorry, but in a standard western capitalism, there is a unemployment margin or breaking barrier of usually between 3-5%.

For those protesting unemployment, socialism is absolutely the only means for this. For those pushing the "Get a job, create a business" nonsense, I'd recommend you pick up a single economics paper before you call others lazy and weak.

Empiricist? As in every statement is meticulous and borne from experience. Is it your experience that a nations economy has no influence on ones ability to recieve the nessacary investment, business or essential means to build a business. Is it also your experience that in times of economic depression, when job cuts become common, when national industries are completely abandoned, when consumer confidence creates less profit margins to hire on employees or afford those that they've already, that getting a job is simply a matter of will?

I think before making such offensive and belittling statement, you should have a little more experience for your empirical mindset.

True, the end of unemployment is only possible under socialism.
That is why this slogan is so powerful as a transitional demand, as it is something that the unemployed and in general the working class wants, that is the end of unemployment.
Since the end of unemployment though is impossible within the limits of capitalism, through this experience those workers will develop a radical socialist consciousness.
This is the purpose of getting involved and organizing these kinds of protests and placing those kinds of demands.

You should Read the Transitional Programme by Leon Trotsky. (Its only bout 30 pages)
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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2010, 12:56:09 PM »



The socialists countries have proved beyond doubt that unemployment can be totally eradicated under the socialist economic system.
So this is no longer just the question of a theoretical conjecture but rather a well established well proven objective truth.



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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2010, 06:02:47 AM »

This is interesting.

You want to protest unemployment.

You can do so by getting a job to protest unemployment.



yeah, you are right, one should land a job... demonstrating would be meaningless once you also dont have work.. the only thing to fight against unemployment is to be employed. it means you have to equip your self to be hired.
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2010, 10:26:21 AM »

if there are no jobs, create a business and employ people or move to a different location for a job

If only the government and it's universities will help each other and launch a program to help students find a job after school, then there would be no unemployed...
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