the first free energy machine in the world

[orwellcommie]

The energy revolution will be a vital point in the overall social revolution that is coming.  You see we can be thankful of the fact that scientific advancement has never been stifled by those would would prefer things to remain status quo.  We will have great advances in the area of alternative energy infact many of the advances exsist and aren't particularly revolutionary in design, I.E. wind energy.  I believe even Al Gore has been saying what is needed is an "electro net".  That's a good concept in my view power generation that works in a similar manner to the internet where everyone connnect to this "Electro net" links their own personal power generation equiptment I.E. their own wind mill or solar panel or perhaps even hydro electric water mill and powers the collective mass of the "electro net" in a decentralize anarchy that would work in much the same fasion as the internet.  It's certainly a workable solution but it would require some social engineering.

[ckaihatsu]

> The energy revolution will be a vital point in the overall social revolution that is coming. 


orwellcommie,

This is an excellent point -- one which seems obvious in today's international climate of exposed energy costs and monopoly imperialism over oil (and other things).


> You see we can be thankful of the fact that scientific advancement has never been stifled by those would would prefer things to remain status quo. 


Don't you think this statement is problematic? I think it can be taken as downright bourgeois, if interpreted to the letter. You seem to say that the state of science as it is is the best of all possible worlds.

I can understand the spirit of what you're saying, though -- science (as favored by the market, which spurs certain kinds of innovations and possible mass technological benefits) can push through barriers of ossification -- notably religion. At the same time, though, I'm sure you understand that many, many patents and solutions go unused, like alternative energy....


> We will have great advances in the area of alternative energy infact many of the advances exsist and aren't particularly revolutionary in design, I.E. wind energy.  I believe even Al Gore has been saying what is needed is an "electro net".  That's a good concept in my view power generation that works in a similar manner to the internet where everyone connnect to this "Electro net" links their own personal power generation equiptment I.E. their own wind mill or solar panel or perhaps even hydro electric water mill and powers the collective mass of the "electro net" in a decentralize anarchy that would work in much the same fasion as the internet.  It's certainly a workable solution but it would require some social engineering.


The means for wireless energy propagation has existed since the 19th century. I'm sure the means for capturing nature's energy has existed for just as long. Put the two together and let's get this place to the 21st century already!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_energy_transfer

I find it ironic that the Internet, though decentralized, gives rise to a certain kind of centralization -- it's easy for people to go to one (or a handful) of search engines to find exactly what they're looking for, information-wise.

The problem I see, however, is that energy isn't infinitely replicable the way digital information is. I don't know if the same, decentralized model as the Internet would work well for your conception, unless the collection of energy was as clean and easy and sustaining as, say, getting online on the Internet (which is *not* easy for much of the world's population).

Unless energy *generation* could become a strictly household / personal affair, like washing the windows, it's difficult to see a truly anarchic solution to it. There's too much at stake for the state to simply turn the other way. Look at what's it's done with physical force -- it monopolizes it. At some point the question of the state apparatus would have to come into play, if only for standardization and regulation, as a bare minimum. (And hopefully for the impetus of coordinated, funded mass production of energy collectors and energy as a maximum.)

The gargantuan size and impact of the state can be a positive, if it would actually behave progressively, but we know that's impossible considering that its master is capital. Consider the state backing that's going into this ethanol industry bubble -- btw, I don't quite know what to make of it -- is it to quiet some Greens and boost farming? A protectionist measure? A new tactic in the war against the working class?

Instead of jacking food prices the government should plow its R&D funding into what you're saying, orwellcommie, and put the energy question to rest for the basics of running homes and facilities worldwide.


Chris






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[Smoke-joe]

I don't understand why capitalists shouldn't use technologies like that. They are also interested in an efficient way to produce power with low cost. If they were possibilities like this machine, capitalists would buy and use them.

[socialism]

I'm sorry to say, capitalists have found a way to profit from this machine =(
They seem to make crappy products of it to last about 2-3 years, then you go and buy another. Also, on the physics aspect,
there is some energy lost during friction on this machine, so unlimited is limited to its lifespan of 10 years and the amount of energy imputed because you can only get as much energy as is imputed.
Sorry to rain on your parade.

[Dona8Erik]

Does any know that the world may soon be able to buy one of the Far North's most controversial yet revolutionary inventions.

[Scholar]

Of course this is a very large accomplishment.  Now it is on to the challenges of making it accessible and feasible to the average person.  I'm sure we will get their one day.  this is the 1st step in doing that; actually finding the technology.