The plague of modernity

[anomaly]

How many of you out there look past the dreary trends of modernity, and truly believe that we will see communism (or atleast a chain of events leading to communism, such as my anti-capitalist party ideas, and my gradual economic evolution of socialism to world socialism to communism...) in our lifetimes? Is your glass half empty or half full? As I see it, the glass is most definitely half full. It is coming, and the capitalists are powerfless to resist it.

[P.O.U.M]

We shall see socialism in our times. And it is taking place as we speak in Venezuela. Not to mention Latin America is in turmoil and revoltionary situations are appearing everywhere. And if Venezuela plays their cards right, they might become the shining beacon for Latin America.

[Morag]

I've been accused of being an extremely optimistic person (nauseatingly so, to here my ex-boyfriends tell it), but even losing the optimism, I don't see how we won't see socialism in my lifetime. I mean, this current march towards globalization confirms it to me; no borders, plus very large, very poor majorities with no political power, fully aware that they are exploited? Yes, we will see socialism in our time.

[Volkov]

Originally posted by anomaly
How many of you out there look past the dreary trends of modernity, and truly believe that we will see communism (or atleast a chain of events leading to communism, such as my anti-capitalist party ideas, and my gradual economic evolution of socialism to world socialism to communism...) in our lifetimes? Is your glass half empty or half full? As I see it, the glass is most definitely half full. It is coming, and the capitalists are powerfless to resist it.

Well, things are starting to heat up, bringing us closer to the boiling point, as we look beyond the static image.  

We will see such things happen in our lifetimes;  most of us are pretty young (teens or young adults), and if we accept the average life expectancy, most of us should live for at least 50-60 more years, and with all of these crises, captialism is simply not going to withstand so many future crisises, and the capitalists will inevitably try to save themselves by converting their Bourgeois republics into totalitarian states.

[orwellcommie]

Yes that's the real issue here the totalitarian states as the emerge.  Right now they are using things like GPS devices to moniter the movements of all citizens, servalence camera's EVERYWHERE, censorship and in many cases abolition of free speech, curtailing the right to bear arms where it exsists and out right bann on it everwhere else where people might consider it possible, all manner of electronic control of the masses, obedience compliance, solitary confinement, prison state, prison slave labor, racial and ethnic oppression of all manner.  These things when all combine and advocated by the so called "Western Democracies" will result in great suffering and abuse of the people, and in many places already have.  Capitalist Buy off the state and Capitalst care NOTHING for the well being of the people Rather all they seek is their subjugation and exploitation, it might even end that the Capitalist seek genocide.  Why are Capitalist Pro-abortion?  It's simple when Capital is of more value then humanity then genocide IS the final outcome, and how better to carry out said genocide then by persuading people to abort THEMSELVES out of the genepool?  What's worse atleast with Hitler he sought to elivate only Aryans to the exclusion of all other races, with Capitalist not even the lily white Aryans are off limits for the genocide as where abortion is concerned White babies are the hardest hit, it's the Aryan holocaust and it goes all but unnoticed by the general public.

[redjordi]

orwellcommie what you say makes no sense, capitalists are not in favour of abortion, in fact in most countries abortion rights had to be fought for very hard and in many they still do not exist.

"White babies are the hardest hit, it's the Aryan holocaust and it goes all but unnoticed by the general public."

this does even make less sense

it would be really useful if you thought things through before posting

thanks

[turnoviseous]

orwellcommie,

How comes that every post you make doesn´t fit to the thread you post it in?

The question was How many of you out there...truly believe that we will see communism [or more radical movement toward it] in our lifetimes, and you start with something like "abortion"?

I don´t know, it is either you miss the thread you want to post your message in, or you just write something, which is not only non-relevant to the matter of the thread, but also meaningless, senseless etc.

I got the feeling you post things on the   boards just out of boredom to write something.

If that is the case, you should better start considering writing your diary, and if you want to make sure others see it, make a web site with the text of your consciousness´ flux.

Or maybe, in case you are sensually attached to the boards, you can create your thread in the non-political section and make your diary there. :)

I dont want to be rude, but thats just how I feel. Personally, I think you didnt write one good post, but I might be mistaken. It might just explain the fact that when i see a post with nick "orwellcommie", I usually try to avoid reading it.

And then also, it is not the problem that a board member doesnt know stuff, but that you write such stupid posts - ie. non-relevant, meaningless, senseless, not structured etc..

[Morag]

I don't think Capitalists are pro-abortion. Think about it; the more kids born, the more members of a work force, the lower wages can be (Manchester School). Also, the more markets there are for products. It wouldn't make sense for them to be pro-abortion, even if one were to argue that the higher disposable income a family had the more they could buy. That would suggest competition for the capitalist.

[Volkov]

Originally posted by Morag
I don't think Capitalists are pro-abortion. Think about it; the more kids born, the more members of a work force, the lower wages can be (Manchester School). Also, the more markets there are for products. It wouldn't make sense for them to be pro-abortion, even if one were to argue that the higher disposable income a family had the more they could buy. That would suggest competition for the capitalist.

Capitalists are probably not too concerned with it either way;  as long as their profits are not threatened.  There is a lot of ruckus about abortion over here in the US, including from reactionaries like Bush, but then again, we must remember that the US government is manipulating the religious so that they will have a mass basis for justification for reaction in the future.