What kind of Communism do you believe in?

[Herman]

As everyone knows, there have been different kinds of communism in the world. I'd like to see the results in a poll and the peoples opinion's posted.

[Cobra90x]

None of the above. I believe in anarcho-communism.

[P.O.U.M]

DeLeonism
Luxembergists (dont know exactly what to call these people, they advocate many of the ideas of Lenin and Trotsky but deny the party and denounce both mens actions during the Revolution)
Council Communists
Social Democrat
Christian Socialist

But Im gonna go with Trotskyism, woo!

Not to mention that communism is generaly viewed the same by everyone, even the anarcho-communist. A stateless and classless society based upon free association. Something around that. Its just how do we get there that divides everyone.

[Volkov]

I am unable to vote, for Marxism, Leninism, and Trotskyism are essentially the same thing.  Lenin and Trotsky carried on and developed Marxism further.

[mir]

I agree with Volkov.  But I voted for plain Marxism.

[ACE]

I'd say none of the above because I consider myself to be among the NEW communist movement.  These Communist leaders did great things, even Stalin can be credited with some redemption for destroying the Nazi's, tho my praise for stalin is quite scarce.  But one Can't look BACKWARDS when it comes to Communism in the 21st century other then to pick out the things that have worked and succeeded to carry those ideas further and find the ideas that didn't succeed and discard them as impracticle.  That's why I'd say the catagory of "NEW Communist" should be added to this selection.

[anomaly]

Originally posted by ACE
I'd say none of the above because I consider myself to be among the NEW communist movement.  These Communist leaders did great things, even Stalin can be credited with some redemption for destroying the Nazi's, tho my praise for stalin is quite scarce.  But one Can't look BACKWARDS when it comes to Communism in the 21st century other then to pick out the things that have worked and succeeded to carry those ideas further and find the ideas that didn't succeed and discard them as impracticle.  That's why I'd say the catagory of "NEW Communist" should be added to this selection.

What's a 'new' communist?

I'd have to agree with cobra, anarcho-communism is really what Marx described. It is communism. I don't see communism as possible with a state.



^....the return of Anomaly....^

[Volkov]

Originally posted by anomaly
What's a 'new' communist?

I have no idea what a "new" communist is, but it is probably an ultraleftist thing.

[mir]

I don't know what new communist is either but just because it has the label new doesn't mean it's any good.  I myself think that Lenin, Trotsky, and Marx/Engels added the foundations and since them, others have developed philosophy and theory.  Yet, they are (or at least should be) the cornerstones of any serious communist.

[RedViper]

I would say that I belong to the communist left, and Iam influenced by thinkers such as Dauvé, Bordiga, Pannekoek, Mattick, Tronti, etc. I do not know to much about organizations in Brittain, but I do read and very much like the Aufheben papers. http://www.geocities.com/aufheben2 - Have you read them? Order some, they are great if you are the least intrested in marxist theory. Voted "marxist" btw.

[orwellcommie]

I guess we'll never know what he ment by a "New" Communist but I hope this new Communism takes Orwell's advice and never degenerates into a state dominated by "Big Brother"

[turnoviseous]

Originally posted by orwellcommie
I guess we'll never know what he ment by a "New" Communist but I hope this new Communism takes Orwell's advice and never degenerates into a state dominated by "Big Brother"

Of course not! It doesnt even have a chance to degenerate! Just like n-headed hydra never dies because it cant live.

I am not making the usual Stalinist argument of so called "socialist realism", but sometimes you have to use "bad" methods to achieve or protect something good.

[Cobra90x]

Well after reconsidering I decided to vote marxism. I basically believe in a lot of what marx said but oppose leninism and trotskyism. I oppose vanguards and parties and prefer power be in the hands of the working class directly through workers councils, etc. I guess you could call me a libertarian marxist or anarchist with marxist tendencies.

[RedViper]

Or maybe...a council communist? ;)

http://www.kurasje.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_communism

[orwellcommie]

@turnoviseous

The Ends justifies the means is a poor argument to make.  Hitler in his twisted way believed in this argument, it was kill all the jews, gypsies, Slavs, darker races and mixed raced peoples, homosexuals, mentally ill, enimies to the party, voices of decent, Jahovah's witnesses, and the world will be a better place.  Well that's the best example of why the Ends Justifies the means argumen it the height of self defeating logic.  Hitler TRUELY thought that genocide of all who he deem to be inferior or to have some ideology or behavior pattern with which he did not agree to be people unworthy of living in this aryan utopia he imagined himself building.  These means would and still could lead to the end of all life on earth.  No the means do not justify the ends, no you kill a Nazi FOR the ends in and of itself not because this idea of means being irrelivent.  No they can be only irrelivent in that granade isn't less an effective method firearm depending on cercomstances. The means are determined by nessisity NOT by what the end result.  One kills a Nazi because it's an End in and of itself.  Does it make the world a better place to treat them in the same manner as they have treated others?  Round them up Gass then creamate them and deny the entire affair?  Well yes it does, but those means aren't NEARLY as good as to go after the SOURCE of these ideas.  The means are NOT justified when one could have taken Nazi engineering Nazi millitary prowess and turned it towards making the lives of all better, it's alot simplier to kill then it would be to turn a Nazi into a warrior against Racism.  To simply sit back and say "I've done a great deed I've killed all the Nazi's" is infact a failure when the outcome could have been far better had the idea of genocide to improve the world been the REAL foe vanquished.