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« on: February 20, 2005, 05:17:17 PM »

The U.S.A makes many claims of being the champion of Liberty and Democracy in the world.  This infact is a Lie, The United States of America are neither democratic nor Free.  The U.S.A. is infact a Capitalist Dictatorship.  Votes are meaningless in America and the only power that is held is be those who control the wealth and capital in the U.S.

At best a Capitalist Society is a system under which 90% of the wealth is controled by 10% of the population, now even this disparity is all to OPTIMISTIC as at most perhaps 3% of the population are in control of all this wealth.  This means the U.S.A. is a is by no means democratic nor free.  No it is a dictatorship and it's method of inforcing it's dictatorship is to force all who do not agree with or comply with it's tyrany into poverty or prison.

It's well known that the nation that imprisions more of it's own citizens then any other in the world is the U.S.A.  It sort of makes it difficult to claim to be champions of LIBERTY when more of your population is imprisioned then any other nation on the face of the earth.  Only those who comply with the dictates of Capitalist are permited to exsist or have any measure of confort or luxary, and even there most are still traped in a state of wage slavery and a perpetual cycle of poverty.

People think of the U.S.A. as a "Rich" nation but infact it's people are bound in slavery.  You see Capitalist act under the notion that "inorder for me to be rich you MUST be Poor, FOREVER".

Why is it that the standard of living in Mexico the american nabor to it's south remains so much lower then that of the U.S.?  Is it because Mexicans aren't hard working people?  Hardly could that be the case as HUGE perportion of the labor is done by imigrants from Mexico aswell as the rest of Latin america, and yet despite millions of Latino-Americans hard work ethic, their home countries remain in abject povert.  Why?

The Reason is clear as capitalist REQUIRE the poverty of others to maintain their position of dominance, a wage slave must NEVER be permitted to gain wealth from their labor as then the grip of their enslavement vanishes.  For this Reason the recent events in Ukrain are quite disturbing as it indicates that the Ukrainian people have fallen pray to the decite of of Capitalist.  The perception that some how Capitalist would not act as their system dictates or would possible treate Ukraine any differently then is would say Mexico is a sign that the people are falling right into their trap.  No they do not mean to promote the well being or of Ukraine as Capitalist have NEVER given more then they take from the lands they trap with wage slavery.  No it's the very nature of the Capitalist state to take as much as can be taken and give as little as possible or in many case NOTHING at all in return for what it steals.  Capitalism is mutually exclusive to the concepts of Freedom and Democracy
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2005, 09:53:19 PM »

Well said! You are a good writer (when you drop the violent warmongering ;)).

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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2005, 08:08:15 PM »

I appriciate the compliment, I hope my writing will draw more attention and incite others to spread the message.  Despite my anger over the current situation i the world I'm not completely pessimistic that the U.S.A might one day in our lifetime become a communist nation, not a totalitarian dictatorship nor a slave state of capitalism as it is now but a truely free communist state where it's leaders truely and honest work towards the well being off ALL it's people not just the prividged few or those with wealth but all people.  I feel that it must because if capitalism has it way it will without a dought lead to the death of all mankind.  You see hate breeds hate and the life's blood of Capitalism is hate deprivation exploitation and slavery.  Well enslaved people end up having a craving for blood and revenge, and in ther current era of human development revenge is very likely to include the use of weapons that can and would wipe all of mankind from the face of the earth.  It only takes 1 vengeful scientest who filled with vengeful hate could build a destructive device to do something like ignite the earth's atmostphere and burn all the life giving atmostphere from the face of the earth killing all living things.  One person could do this, and at that point once could say NOTHING nothing but LOOK at that HATE THAT HATE MADE!!!
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2005, 07:51:49 AM »

Bravo!!! It feels good to hear someone else say it!!! Its the same hear in England and the world over! Something must be done!!!
Capitalism must be ended...but how??? How can we bring the system down without harming those we wist to help? As marx said "The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it."
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2005, 02:31:24 PM »

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Bravo!!! It feels good to hear someone else say it!!! Its the same hear in England and the world over! Something must be done!!!
Capitalism must be ended...but how??? How can we bring the system down without harming those we wist to help? As marx said "The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it."


As, to use Trotsky's words, no devil has ever willingly cut off its own claws, i.e. no ruling class has gone down without a fight.  The revolution must be violent, unforutnately.  Of course, a violent revolution may not end up being all that violent, as the socialist movement could be so popular that the ruling stratum won't be able to find any regiments willing to put the revolution down (as was in the case of the October Revolution).

Also, we must remember what Marx/Engels said in the Communist Manifesto in that by freedom, liberty, etc., the capitalists mean nothing but Bourgeois freedom, liberty, etc..
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2005, 05:14:18 PM »

Now the fight is where it's tricky, you see an overt assult on the ruling class would result in catastophic escalation of violence.  Most Capitalist that I'm aware of would rather then world go up in an atomic fireball then give up their position of priviledge as the ruling slave masters over then enslaved prolitariate.  So how then?  Well first off in the case of america it has TWO capitals, one thing Moscow wasn't was two serpate cities, this has gone unnoticed but the second U.S. Capital is Hollywood.  Now stick with me now as it sounds silly but it's true, americans are perhaps as effected by what they see in films as they are by what their government does. Some would argue even more so.

I would dare wager that had the U.S.S.R. had competative broadcasting to Hollywood it would have been alot harder to topple.  You see that's how Capitalist wield their power over the minds of the masses, they can make a pig smell sweet as a rose.  Americans embrace Capitalism because Hollywood tells them it's Cool and Sexy and taking from the poor and under prividged to buy you Dog a diamond dog collar is perfectly acceptable because that's what they do in Hollywood.

But you see People can be even more easily persuaded that Capitalism is wrong through film as audiences are all to eager to see the greedy capitalist being punished for their indulgence and their exploitation of the working class.  You don't see this EVER in Hollywood but you COULD have seen it in the U.S.S.R. had the Krimlin realized that they were up against a nation of 2 capitals not one.

Also one could carry out the direct approach to upseating the Capitalist from power not using armies but individual assassination.  How many Migs' would it have taken to blow up the Federal building in Oklahoma?  Tons and tons would have been an air battle to rival all air battles to penitrate that deeply into contested airspace but it only took 1 Tim McVeigh to blow that building to bits.  You see 1 man can and DID punish and entire nation, and infact had he been armed with an atomic bomb he could have toppled the america government and killed millions, even in the mightiest nation in the world 1 man can kill them all.

Yet Bloodshed isn't what we are after here, Not to say that it's to be avoided at all costs but in the war to establish communism becomes a battle of attrition all mankind might very well attrit.  So we must PURSUADE people, people WANT a solution to their problems people WANT to be liberated from their wage slavery people don't want to be blown up with atomic bombs and people DO want justice and an end to a class based society.  And I for one want to see it in MY lifetime.
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2005, 10:58:11 PM »

How about you guys get out of your rooms and talk to real people.  Maybe girls, if you know any not named "Mom".
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2005, 08:14:34 PM »

And as we all know, trolling losers are staggeringly popular and can get laid all the time, which is why they never have to use the internet to... wait. Hang on.

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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2005, 02:31:08 AM »

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Now the fight is where it's tricky, you see an overt assult on the ruling class would result in catastophic escalation of violence.  Most Capitalist that I'm aware of would rather then world go up in an atomic fireball then give up their position of priviledge as the ruling slave masters over then enslaved prolitariate.  So how then?  Well first off in the case of america it has TWO capitals, one thing Moscow wasn't was two serpate cities, this has gone unnoticed but the second U.S. Capital is Hollywood.  Now stick with me now as it sounds silly but it's true, americans are perhaps as effected by what they see in films as they are by what their government does. Some would argue even more so.

I would dare wager that had the U.S.S.R. had competative broadcasting to Hollywood it would have been alot harder to topple.  You see that's how Capitalist wield their power over the minds of the masses, they can make a pig smell sweet as a rose.  Americans embrace Capitalism because Hollywood tells them it's Cool and Sexy and taking from the poor and under prividged to buy you Dog a diamond dog collar is perfectly acceptable because that's what they do in Hollywood.

But you see People can be even more easily persuaded that Capitalism is wrong through film as audiences are all to eager to see the greedy capitalist being punished for their indulgence and their exploitation of the working class.  You don't see this EVER in Hollywood but you COULD have seen it in the U.S.S.R. had the Krimlin realized that they were up against a nation of 2 capitals not one.

Also one could carry out the direct approach to upseating the Capitalist from power not using armies but individual assassination.  How many Migs' would it have taken to blow up the Federal building in Oklahoma?  Tons and tons would have been an air battle to rival all air battles to penitrate that deeply into contested airspace but it only took 1 Tim McVeigh to blow that building to bits.  You see 1 man can and DID punish and entire nation, and infact had he been armed with an atomic bomb he could have toppled the america government and killed millions, even in the mightiest nation in the world 1 man can kill them all.

Yet Bloodshed isn't what we are after here, Not to say that it's to be avoided at all costs but in the war to establish communism becomes a battle of attrition all mankind might very well attrit.  So we must PURSUADE people, people WANT a solution to their problems people WANT to be liberated from their wage slavery people don't want to be blown up with atomic bombs and people DO want justice and an end to a class based society.  And I for one want to see it in MY lifetime.

We need no violent revolution. Remember that capitalists control all of the nuclear weapons in the world, so a violent revolution in the USA would last a few days at best. We must, as I have been stressing, unite together, blacks, reds, and greens, to fight capitalism in the realm of the political. Perhaps I am the only one excited about what an international anti-capitalist party could do to the size of the movement. We could democratically win control of every industrial country in the world. The only one that may not go along with it is the USA, largely held in place by propaganda and ignorance. 15% of people voting in the French elections were Marxist. Think of what numbers the anti-capitalist party could get. You could add up the Marxists, the revisionists, the ultra-radicals, the anarchists, and the greens. I tell you, that kind of party would be unstoppable.
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2005, 03:58:24 AM »

The problem is all the groups claiming socialism have a deep mistrust of the other camp. Especially between the Marxists (more so the Leninists) and the anarchists. And the anarchists and Marxists both flat out reject any program of the reformists. The second international (reformists) remains to be one of the biggest betryals of the working class.

Marxists should work with such a group, but would not sacrifice their own program. And would always maintain their program while working with such a group to enlist new comrades.
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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2005, 02:50:29 AM »

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The problem is all the groups claiming socialism have a deep mistrust of the other camp. Especially between the Marxists (more so the Leninists) and the anarchists. And the anarchists and Marxists both flat out reject any program of the reformists. The second international (reformists) remains to be one of the biggest betryals of the working class.

Marxists should work with such a group, but would not sacrifice their own program. And would always maintain their program while working with such a group to enlist new comrades.

Yes, as I have said before, we must unite together. The revisionists will be able to experience state socialism, and then global, while the anarchists and communists will know that what they desire is jut around the corner. I know of few leftists who are totally hostile to the idea of anarcho-communism. When we on the left unite, we will be unstoppable.
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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2005, 08:26:10 PM »

Who says Capitalist control all the atomic bombs?!  NONSENSE!  I could tell you the location of a warehouse with enough enriched plutonium and Uranium to build over 20 atomic weapons, and guess what the only thing keeping the warehouse shut is a PADLOCK! I could kill everyone on the face of the earth if I were so inclinded.  That's the key you see, it's equvilent exchange, to save the world you must also be able to destroy it.  Sound's odd but in order to get something you must be able to exchange something of equal value.  Oh and don't get me started about the suitcase bombs.......
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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2005, 11:09:31 PM »

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Who says Capitalist control all the atomic bombs?!  NONSENSE!  I could tell you the location of a warehouse with enough enriched plutonium and Uranium to build over 20 atomic weapons, and guess what the only thing keeping the warehouse shut is a PADLOCK! I could kill everyone on the face of the earth if I were so inclinded.  That's the key you see, it's equvilent exchange, to save the world you must also be able to destroy it.  Sound's odd but in order to get something you must be able to exchange something of equal value.  Oh and don't get me started about the suitcase bombs.......

I am certainly not looking for nuclear war here. Political revolution, atleast in the USA and Europe, is the best, really the only option. And let me inform you that you cannot get your hands on any US nuke! Hell, the Russians couldn't, how can you lol!
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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2005, 07:51:58 PM »

Don't be so sure about that, wasn't it just in the news lately that there was an atomic bomb under less then 3 feet of water in Georgia I think it was for that last 30 years or so?  There are Hundreds of "Broken Arrows" across the world.  The fact is America can be destroyed totally and completely,  The entire earth can, and all life in it.  That's what people need to be aware of because it's the truth, and if people REALIZED this they might become a bit less arrogant and willing to sacrifice the lives of others, because the more people you kill in wars of aggression the more innocent blood spilled the more good soldiers sent off to die for bad causes bring the world THAT much closer to global annihilation.  If we don't unifty the world all life will be lost, it's inevitable, we need to work seriously for the domino theory to become a reality as once the atomic terrorist says "TO HELL WITH IT I'm DROPING THE BIG ONE!!!"  it will be to late and mankind will be dead.


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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2005, 08:46:00 PM »

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Don't be so sure about that, wasn't it just in the news lately that there was an atomic bomb under less then 3 feet of water in Georgia I think it was for that last 30 years or so?  There are Hundreds of "Broken Arrows" across the world.  The fact is America can be destroyed totally and completely,  The entire earth can, and all life in it.  That's what people need to be aware of because it's the truth, and if people REALIZED this they might become a bit less arrogant and willing to sacrifice the lives of others, because the more people you kill in wars of aggression the more innocent blood spilled the more good soldiers sent off to die for bad causes bring the world THAT much closer to global annihilation.  If we don't unifty the world all life will be lost, it's inevitable, we need to work seriously for the domino theory to become a reality as once the atomic terrorist says "TO HELL WITH IT I'm DROPING THE BIG ONE!!!"  it will be to late and mankind will be dead.


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