I'm new here and I want socialist friends

[Frederik]

Hi DawnOLiberation and Swimmingadict,

Welcome to the board, always good to see new people here.

DawnOLiberation: on the question of NK, I reccomend this article on Cuba - I know it is not the same country and the particularities of those two countries differ, but it outlines the marxist analysis of stalinism: http://www.marxist.com/Latinam/cuba_executions.html

Comradely,
Frederik

[Miestermatt]

Welcome comrade it's good to see a new soicalist becoming invovled.

[DawnOLiberation]

Frederik, i read the article you linked here
the two countries seem to be similar to each other
i agree with it but there are some differences between them and that is very important things

north korea has been always saying they seek 'socialism of our own' and it is making north korean stalinism worse

first, thought of confucius influenced some factors in north korea
confucius thoughts stress order in family, therefore purity of women. they also stress order in society, therefore obedience of the young and lower officials for the old and higher officials.
stressing order in family will chain women's right
and stressing order in society will make bureaucracy firm
north korea is giving power to these thoughts to make its society invincible. kim il-sung is refered to as 'father kim il-sung'.
it will be very hard to break this rule both for US imperialism and us socialists

second, north korea is an incredible nationalist country. almost every words of their language doesn't include foreign words. just by it you can imagine what is happening because it is natural of language to be mixed by cultural exchange. the reason why the language has few foreign laguages is because they fixed or removed from their dictionary. same is applied for politics. their policies have been of nationalists since 70s and they used to believe they can survive their own. they seem to have found their misses, but they're never throwing their nationalism away. it is a wall to capitalists, but it can also make international socialism hard.

in addition to hardship of democracy in this stalinist country, the 'socialism of our own' policy makes it hard to see them as socialists. it is why i say a revolution is need in north korea, too. it's a very sick society and it needs a change.

[Volkov]

Originally posted by DawnOLiberation
Frederik, i read the article you linked here
the two countries seem to be similar to each other
i agree with it but there are some differences between them and that is very important things

north korea has been always saying they seek 'socialism of our own' and it is making north korean stalinism worse

first, thought of confucius influenced some factors in north korea
confucius thoughts stress order in family, therefore purity of women. they also stress order in society, therefore obedience of the young and lower officials for the old and higher officials.
stressing order in family will chain women's right
and stressing order in society will make bureaucracy firm
north korea is giving power to these thoughts to make its society invincible. kim il-sung is refered to as 'father kim il-sung'.
it will be very hard to break this rule both for US imperialism and us socialists

second, north korea is an incredible nationalist country. almost every words of their language doesn't include foreign words. just by it you can imagine what is happening because it is natural of language to be mixed by cultural exchange. the reason why the language has few foreign laguages is because they fixed or removed from their dictionary. same is applied for politics. their policies have been of nationalists since 70s and they used to believe they can survive their own. they seem to have found their misses, but they're never throwing their nationalism away. it is a wall to capitalists, but it can also make international socialism hard.

in addition to hardship of democracy in this stalinist country, the 'socialism of our own' policy makes it hard to see them as socialists. it is why i say a revolution is need in north korea, too. it's a very sick society and it needs a change.

True.  North Korea is run by paranoid Stalinists, and it won't last forever.  Why are they so isolationist?  It is probably due to the crisis that Stalinism is in over there, and I feel that even a small, external shock could spell disaster for their regime.  Wasn't their leader rather paranoid when that train explosion happened over there?

[poplar]

Welcome and it's really wonderful to have a comrade so near!

[DawnOLiberation]

nice to meet you
i always longed for meeting a chinese
because china calls itself 'people's republic'!
rebellion socialist(is it right?)in 'socialist country', how amazing :)
how's china going?
above all, how's chinese COMMUNIST party?
has it gone capitalist forever?
is there any 'communist' in the party?
what was it in tien am men years ago?
it wasn't capitalist movement, was it?
i'll wait for your reply
(in fact, years ago when i had no contact with socialists, i thought : 'china's going to make next revolution after develping its economy by capital of imperialists' because i believed chinese communist party was real communist party :)                            )

[poplar]

Nice to meet you, too.
I'm sorry to have you wait for my reply for so long a time, but as a matter of fact I'm just being as busy as you... I'm preparing for my entrance examination for graduate school...
Well, I believe you know the site http://www.marxist.com. Have you ever been to the Section of China? Maybe you could find someting interesting.:)

comradely,

[the_sociallist]

Welcome!! Glad to have you here, look forward to helping you learn more about socaillism and learning from you in the process. Feel free to express you views...see you on the board